It was basically drums and these bamboo flutes and then later they brought in the accordion,” he says. It comes from the northeast originally and it’s people that used to entertain themselves, probably without electricity first. “That’s basically Brazilian country music. He is in an ensemble that plays a style called forró around the city, when time (and pandemic) permits. In the podcast, we also talk about his own relationship to acoustic Brazilian dance music. Refosco is a drum major in more ways than one. There are deliberate stylistic echoes and callbacks to the foundational Jonathan Demme Talking Heads documentary, “Stop Making Sense.” But one gets the feeling that Byrne is handing the baton on to the next generation, one that is multinational and multiethnic and multi-you-name-it. There is also ma sense in “American Utopia” of both time passing and harmony evolving. “It’s funny because he has that song, ‘ Blind.’ And there’s a line, one of the bridges of the song, says ‘no sense of harmony, no sense of time.’ But he has amazing sense of harmony and amazing sense of time.” “His singing is just getting better and better with age,” he says. Spike is such an amazing person.”Īnd he talks about how Byrne himself has evolved over the years. Refosco, who has played the show hundreds of times, talks about the experience of actually seeing it as an observer for the first time on film, directed by Spike Lee no less. It’s a necessity for us as a community to respect each other and be better.” “It’s something that, yes, we have to talk about. “We’ve seen on Broadway, man, people stand up and leave! People make sure we understand that, ‘we’re leaving because I don’t like this part of the show.’”īut the song also routinely receives standing ovations, he says. We sing a song by Janelle Monae, the protest song ‘ Say Her Name,’” Refosco says, referring to a climactic moment in the show when Byrne and his small ensemble sing the anti-police brutality song and chant the names of the murdered. “His message is about the necessity of change, and the change is coming. “American Utopia” doesn’t say a whole lot explicitly, but it does nudge us to think about our own super racist history, and our own individual positions within it. Unfortunately we have this crazy guy that’s the president right now, super right wing. There’s a big movement of addressing this right now. “There is a movement in the United States to change this, to change this pattern. “Brazil is a super racist country, unfortunately,” he says. And, ultimately find his way out of the country. He also couldn’t wait to get out of Santa Catarina. But then at one game Refosco saw a band playing samba and he was hooked. Of course most boys born in the southern Brazilian state of Santa Catarina probably wanted to play football. Growing up, Refosco actually wanted to be a soccer-sorry, football-player. Refosco on stage with the touring production of ‘American Utopia’ in Boston (Shira Friedman) And so I joined the band and have been working with him ever since.” I was more into the classical world of it, and also Brazilian music. I had never played rock music or pop music in my life. He was looking for someone to play percussion and mallet instruments: vibraphone, marimba. “I did this master’s at Manhattan School of Music. “I joined his band in 1994,” says Refosco. Pause for a second and reflect upon what it must take to be David Byrne’s musical director. This week on “ Brooklyn Magazine: The Podcast” we speak at length with Mauro Refosco, a renowned percussionist in his own right, a nearly 30-year David Byrne collaborator, and musical director of “American Utopia.” (And we suspect you have someone’s password.) A Spike Lee-directed live recording of “American Utopia” is currently streaming on HBO. It’s spare and stunning.īonus: You don’t have to buy Broadway tickets to see it. Byrne’s kinetic Broadway showcase of his and other songs-interspersed with his musings on the state of the world and the self, the communal and the individual-is a remarkable, throbbing and ultimately life affirming … party. Tell a friend!Įarlier this month it was announced that “David Byrne’s American Utopia” extended its Broadway run for the final time and now will conclude performances on April 3 at the St. Like what you’re hearing? Subscribe to us at iTunes, check us out on Spotify and hear us on Google, Amazon, Stitcher and TuneIn.
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